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 Aspects of Horsham's past by Brian Slyfield

September 2007 

Earl Winterton: 47 years our MP

The Rt Hon Edward Turnour, 6th Earl Winterton and Baron Turnour of Shillinglee, was a significant political figure for much of the first half of the twentieth century, and as a Conservative, initially in Balfour's government, he represented the Horsham Division between 1904 and 1918 (he was elected on 11th November, when he was just 21 and in his third year at university), and then Horsham and Worthing between 1918 and 1940 and again the Horsham Division from 1940 to 1951.

He held a number of offices of state. Following an strong maiden speech, an early rung on the ladder saw him occupy the role of PPS to the Financial Secretary to the Admiralty, Ernest Pretyman, between 1905-06. His career prospered, and he later achieved more senior roles. He was Under-Secretary for India between 1922-29, and Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster from 1937-39. In 1938 he held the position of Deputy to the Secretary of State for Air (Lord Swinton) and Vice-President of the Air Council, and was in Neville Chamberlain's cabinet between 1938-39. In that perod he had spells as Assistant to the Home Secretary and Paymaster General - and we will shortly discover that he had many other strings to his bow. So let us take a closer look at the life and times of this talented and lively aristocrat.

He was born on 4th April 1883, the only son of the 5th Earl, again an Edward, and his wife Lady Georgiana Hamilton, who was a daughter of the Duke of Abercorn. An early Turnour had played a leading part in prosecuting the regicides, following the restoration of Charles II to the throne in 1660. He succeeded to his father's Earldom (an Irish title created for Edward, the 1st Earl, in December 1765) in 1907, at the age of 24, and to another Irish title, as Baron Winterton of Gort, County Galway – created in 1761. These Irish titles were to be no bar to him sitting in the House of Commons. Earlier he had followed in the traditional path: Eton – where he said his record was 'undistinguished', and Oxford – where he was a student at New College.

In 1924 he married the Hon Cecilia Wilson, daughter of the 2nd Baron Nunburnholme. His wife was said to be 'a gifted and charming young lady who has been making friends in all parts of the constituency'. They set up home in style at Shillinglee Park, the Winterton family seat for some 250 years out at Chiddingfold, on that delightful back road between Horsham and Haslemere, and Winterton made the claim that his estate commanded about 2,800 acres.

His family had a strong sense of community responsability, and following his father's death, and together with his mother, he arranged for the donation of a village hall to the village of Plaistow, in memory of the 5th Earl. There was, of course, a gathering to celebrate the occasion, and no doubt the local great and the good jostled to be there. Fine sentiments were expressed all round, and when the speeches were over Earl Winterton entertained one and all to 'sherry and cigarettes' – a nice contemporary touch.

In retirement he wrote Orders of the Day, which looked back on his parliamentary career. We may think that the House of Commons is a rough old place today, but judging from Winterton it certainly had its moments then. He tells, for example, of an MP named Flavin ('powerfully built and ferocious-looking') who had once been a member of the Royal Irish Constabulary. Following his suspension from the House over some matter, Flavin refused to withdraw – with the result that he was carried out – physically - by attendants. And then there was Swift McNeill, a well-known Irish Nationalist and 'a most agreeable man...but of marked simian appearance'. Apparently he was nicknamed 'Pongo', after a celebrated performing ape of the day. Winterton tells how 'whenever Mr McNeill got himself into a scene, which he frequently did, and started, as was his wont, to shout and wave his arms about, a low murmur and refrain would would come forth from the Conservative back benches: "Order, Pongo; give him a nut; careful Pongo; chain! chain! Pongo".

Winterton was a friend of Hilaire Belloc, who lived out at Shipley, but this did not prevent him noting that the latter's brief career as a Liberal MP never recovered from a fatal error he made in a speech one day. Despite his high-pitched voice, he was a skilled orator, and had been since his student days in the Oxford Union. But an offensive allusion to 'the Anglo-Judaic plutocracy' was met with Conservative cries of 'Order, withdraw, cad!' while his Liberal colleagues sat in silent disapproval. His parliamentary career never recovered. The House could, apparently, demonstrate good taste from time to time.

Following the 1910 election a certain Trebitsch Lincoln, a Hungarian by birth, took his seat as a Liberal. By no means Winterton's cup of tea, he was judged to have an aggressive and unpleasant personality, and in the course of one heated argument the Earl shouted at him: 'go back to Hungary'. Hardly a rapier thrust, one would have thought, but his is exactly what the man did - just before the outbreak of the Great War. It turned out that all the time he had been spying for Hungary and Germany, but somehow he survived unprosecuted post-war (which was lucky for the Liberals, as Winterton points out, drily) and – believe it or not - he ended up as a Buddhist monk somewhere in Asia.

Winterton's war was spent largely in the Middle East. He was with the Sussex Yeomanry at Gallipoli, and was also in Palestine and Arabia. In 1916 he commanded a company of the Imperial Camel Corps in desert operations to the east of the Suez Canal, against Bedouin tribesmen who sympathised with the Turks. During this period he served under Colonel TE Lawrence (Lawrence of Arabia), and the two men were to remain in contact after the war. Some three years after its end Winterton was approached by a representative of the Prime Minister saying that the British government was prepared to offer 'your friend Feisal' (then Emir Feisal) the crown of Iraq, and could Winterton act as an intermediary and test the ground in advance? This he did, with the help of Colonel Lawrence among others, after lengthy late night discussions down at Shillinglee. Following further talks with the Emir, an agreement was finally reached, and the latter then became King Feisal I of Iraq. How the world has changed since then....

Together with Winston Churchill (who had high regard for Lawrence, and thought him to be of ministerial quality), Winterton attended Lawrence's funeral in 1935, after his famous - and fatal - motorbike accident.

In March 1938 Chamberlain offered Winterton a Cabinet seat, in order to represent Lord Swinton, the Secretary of State for Air, in the Commons, and to act as Deputy Secretary of State. The offer came, apparently, as a complete surprise - but it was one he accepted readily. However just two months later he made a terrible mess of a debate, and failed to carry the House with him – and so felt honour-bound to resign. In his own words, he 'crashed'. But he remained in the Cabinet (until January 1939), and retained his Chancellorship of the Duchy of Lancaster, and soon after went on to the Home Office as an Under-Secretary of State.

During the Second World War Shillinglee, like so many large houses, was occupied by the military, and in January 1943 Winterton suffered a tremendous blow when the fine old Georgian mansion was badly damaged by fire. The blaze lasted several hours, but luckily a number of paintings, including Old Masters, were rescued. Winston Churchill, abroad at the time and with much on his mind, still found time to send a cable, expressing his sorrow at the loss. Winterton was particularly touched, because while the two had long been old friends in private life, Churchill had been criticised by him in public on matters of policy.

In January 1945 Winterton became Father of the House of Commons, in succession to Lloyd George, who had accepted a peerage. Winterton had declined a United Kingdom peerage as far back as 1935, but he did accept one in 1952, a year after he relinquished his position as MP for Horsham (where he was succeeded by Frederick Gough). His role as Father of the House was then taken over by his old colleague Manny Shinwell. In his later years Lord Winterton became a familiar figure in the House of Lords, with his trademark green eye-shade (he had long suffered from an eye complaint). He had also declined, more than once, the offer of a Governorship abroad, many said out of loyalty to his constituency down in Sussex.

In June 1951 Lord and Lady Rotherwick held a Conservative fete at Sedgwick Park – just the right occasion to mark Earl Winterton's retirement from his Horsham constituency. Lord Woolton made a fine speech, noting that in a career that had encompassed thirteen by-elections Winterton had started as Baby of the House and ended up as its Father. To mark the occasion a really splendid gift was presented: a beautifully-bound and enscribed book with 8,000 signatures from members of his constituency and other admirers. The book was crafted by a certain Bob Green of Horsham, and was encased in a box made of Sussex oak by Hoad and Taylor. It was presented to the Earl by Edward Crosse, 'the cheerful stocky' stud groom from West Grinstead Park. Where is it now, I wonder?

So what kind of man was Winterton? Clearly one of very considerable talent, and on terms of friendship with leading figures of the day, as well as local folk; also a man of great energy, a busy speaker both in the House and in the country. His name comes up with great regularity in back issues of the West Sussex County Times – presiding over meetings, presenting prizes at Collyer's Founder's Days, getting over his point of view and generally active and involved in the business of the constituency. Judging from his memoirs he also had a sharp sense of humour, and was also vigorous in debate, never backward in coming forward when he had something to say, or judged that someone needed attacking. He was also known as a bit of a character, and it is not difficult to see why. Comments by his contemporaries run as follows: 'a fighting spirit'; 'a fearless champion'; 'irrepressible, full of vitality and quick-witted'; 'of great presence, but with an impish spirit, who did not stand on dignity'; 'no respecter of rank'..... all in all he sounds like a good chap to have on the team.

He was, in his time, Master of the Chiddingfold Hunt, and a polo player in his youth. In 1905, with his old friend Winston Churchill, he once turned out for a House of Commons team against Oxford University, and on the way to the polo ground, in a hansom from Oxford station, said he was 'beguiled with political gossip'. Heady stuff for a young man, just arrived in the House, and still only 22.

A sporting digression: he did confess that his cricketing skills were not matched by his father's. Like many grand families at the time the Wintertons had their own private ground, and he liked to tell of the 5th Earl (an original member of West Sussex County Council and in due course its Chairman), who fielded a team known as the Gentlemen of Sussex. Apparently they had one famous match at Shillinglee against the Sussex Militia, when the Gentlemen included the 5th Earl, his two brothers and his father, and so devastating was this aristocratic combination that the Militia were totally humiliated with a first innings score of zero, and no more than 10 runs, second time round. And believe it or not, in another Shillinglee match a well-struck cricket ball managed to hit a Swallow in mid-flight and kill it stone dead. Tall tales?

Earl Winterton died on 26th August 1962, aged 79, while at the King Edward VII Sanitorium in Midhurst. He was buried in Kirdford churchyard, to the accompaniment of the Chiddingfold huntsman's 'hounds gone home', and at the graveside were his widow Countess Winterton (who was to survive him by some twelve years), Prince Tomislau of Yugoslavia, the Duke of Norfolk, Sir Giles Loder and many friends - from the hunting community and elsewhere. His marriage had produced no children, and the United Kingdom title died with him. But the heir to his Irish titles was Robert Chad Turnour, 3rd cousin and a Canadian, and it is good to know that these titles remain current today with the latter's nephew, Donald David Turnour, the 8th Earl.